Monday 5 December 2022, 6:30 pm - 8:30 pm
Any replies to the organizer
- thormay@yahoo.com
Venue: Cafe Brunelli, 187
Rundle St, Adelaide CBD, South Australia
Talking Points
1. What skill,
or knowledge or even attitude makes you "an educated person"?
Background: When I was a young undergraduate in 1960s NZ, an
English literature tutor confronted me in anger. "So do you
think you are an educated man?" she demanded. I had been rude
enough to challenge some idea she had about Bunyon's "The
Pilgrim's Progress" [published in 1678 -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pilgrim%27s_Progress
]. Later I wished that I'd asked her if she could tune the
carburettor on my old Triumph motorbike.
2. Since you
left school, what skills and interests have you developed,
formally or informally? How much of this new knowledge has been
based on structured courses? Have you consciously attempted to
widen or deepen your knowledge base?
3. Is it useful, or
even possible to be a polymath in 2022 AD? A polymath is someone
who knows about and is good at almost everything. Leonardo da
Vinci was a famous polymath.
4. How wide or narrow should
be aim to develop our interests and expertise?
5. What
can 'further education' for adults contribute to them
personally, and to the economy as a whole? In Australia TAFE
stands for Technical And Further Education. The 'further
education' part of this has almost been ignored for most of my
adult lifetime - the political fashions of the period didn't fit
it.
6. What can you conclude from the following
statistics? When I left high school at the end of 1961, a bit
over 1% of the Australian population had a university degree. In
1989 7.9% of Australians had a degree. In 2010 when I was
awarded a PhD (after walking away from two others in the 1980s &
1990s) 23% of Australians had some kind of degree . In 2020
30.1% of Australians had a degree and a little over 1% had a
PhD. In 2021 50.2% of Australians had a degree (an astonishing
30% jump from the year before).
7. To what extent can
education (formal or informal) free individuals from learned
helplessness?
In psychology, there is a concept called
"learned helplessness". This is when an individual concludes
that they are simply not able to do anything about their
personal situation (or the situation of the country) and become
resigned to whatever is imposed on them.
8. What cure
can you propose for credentialism, as opposed to genuine
knowledge seeking? When education is seen purely as a path to
getting a job or promotion, then interest in actual knowledge &
skills becomes minimal. As an educator (Thor) I have found this
mere diploma hunting to be widespread, both among students and
administrators (as opposed to teachers and lecturers).
9. Why do educational institutions still exist? What proportion
of people have the skill. self-discipline and drive to master
the knowledge typically marketed in a university degree or TAFE
course? The Internet now contains more information and guidance,
much of it free, than any course or institution.
10. Is
the knowledge and experience of employees really an asset or a
cost? How can the legal metrics of organizations better reflect
the value of knowledge worker productivity? The accounting
procedures of most companies typically count the employment of
workers as a cost rather than as an asset like capital equipment
and land. Similarly institutions like hospitals, universities
and colleges count their employees as an accounting cost. Yet in
most institutions and companies, if it were not for the
knowledge and experience of employees, these legal structures
would be no more than a shell (e.g. witness the self-destruction
by Elon Musk of his $40 billion acquisition of Twitter).
Extra Reading
Reuven Brenner (March 29, 2022) "When universities and media
go down the drain - It all happened before, and was presaged by
Andersen’s fairytales". Asia Times @
https://asiatimes.com/2022/03/when-universities-and-media-go-down-the-drain/
Statista (2022) "Share of population who hold a bachelor
level degree or above in Australia from 1989 to 2021" at
https://www.statista.com/statistics/612854/australia-population-with-university-degree/
Christopher Hughes (Sep 17, 2021) "Higher education in
Australia - statistics & facts". Statista @
https://www.statista.com/topics/6790/higher-education-in-australia/#topicHeader__wrapper
Malcolm Abbott and Chris Doucouliago (2007) “The
changing structure of higher education in
Australia,
1949-2003”. Deakin University @
https://www.deakin.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/402594/swp2003_07.pdf
Thor May (2012) "Hidden Boundaries – A Joint-Venture
Education Program in China". The Passionate Skeptic Website @
http://thormay.net/lxesl/HIddenBoundaries.html
Thor May (2010) "Language Tangle - Predicting and
facilitating outcomes in language education - PhD dissertation".
University of Newcastle, NSW @
https://ogma.newcastle.edu.au/vital/access/manager/Repository/uon:6593
[statistics as at 22 November 2022: Hits: 1239 Visitors: 5259
Downloads: 1254]
Thor May (2008) "Corruption and Other
Distortions as Variables in Language Education". TESOL Law
Journal, Vol.2 March 2008. Copy on thormay.net @
http://thormay.net/lxesl/corruptioninlxed.html
Thor May (1996) "Technical & Further Education in Australia:
Is there a star to steer by?" Passionate Skeptic website @
http://thormay.net/unwiseideas/politics/politic2.html
[Abstract: A review of the mission of Australian TAFES, and
risks to their skill base. Published in Campus Review (a weekly
newspaper for academics with Australian nationwide circulation)
April 16-22 1997, p.13 (2000 words); also tabled in the
Australian Federal Parliament, December 1996 as part of the
Senate committee hearings on The Status of Teachers]
Thor
May (17 February 1993) "Learning to be Australian" [This was
written as a letter to The Australian newspaper - which declined
to publish it]. Passionate Skeptic website @
http://thormay.net/lxesl/teach3a.html
Thor May
(2017) "Re-spinning Intellectuals into the Social Order".
Passionate Skeptic website @
http://thormay.net/unwiseideas/Intellectuals.htm
[Quote: "What is an intellectual anyway ? I think it has
something to do with looking past the end of your nose. It is
figuring your own way to put the small things of life into the
big context of past, present and future by asking WHY. Now the
world is full of clever, narrow people with lousy judgment. They
are not intellectuals. An intellectual is not necessarily a
person of great intelligence, but one who has developed the
habit of handling ideas in an explicit way of exploring and
questioning the territory of the mind".]
Thor May (2014) "So we had a few failures. Was that the end of
university?" The Passionate Skeptic website @
http://thormay.net/unwiseideas/Access&FailureAtUniversity.htm
[Quote: "The source of this short document is intensely
personal. It is the story of early university misadventure by
one individual, myself. At first glance it might seem of little
interest to anyone but the protagonist. I am publishing it
because in fact pieces of this story fit the lives of so many
students who simply disappear from the statistics and into
oblivion. Educational administrators may make assumptions about
them, perhaps based on personal prejudice and hearsay, while
political decisions about which kinds of students to fund tend
to be founded in ideology rather than the real life stories of
actual individuals and their development".]
Thor May
(2014) "The Purpose of Education - a hitchhiker’s guide to the
galaxy?" The Passionate Skeptic website @
http://thormay.net/unwiseideas/EducationPurpose_Hitchhiker.htm
[[Quote: "Any Internet search will reveal a myriad of articles
and blogs on this topic. The variety of comment is not
surprising since formal education of some kind affects every
family and every individual in almost every country. Informal
education has probably effected just about everyone since humans
evolved. What the online material does show is that while the
process is universal, the objectives are diverse and often in
conflict".]
Anthony Galloway (September 3, 2022) "Tens of
thousands of international graduates to work in Australia
longer". Brisbane Times @
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/politics/federal/tens-of-thousands-of-international-graduates-to-work-in-australia-longer-20220902-p5betx.html
[Quote: "Foreigners wanting to study nursing, engineering and IT
will be the focus of the federal government’s plan to lure more
overseas students to Australia... Select bachelor’s degree
holders will be able to work for four years after graduating, up
from two years .. All masters students will be able to work for
five years, up from three years, and PhD graduates will be able
to work for six years, up from four years. ... Just 16 per cent
of international students stay on to work after their studies in
Australia, compared to 27 per cent in Canada". ]
Rhys
Blakely (October 1, 2022) "British journals forced to retract
fake Chinese science papers - A recent report suggested one in
50 papers submitted to journals come from shadowy operations
that produce falsified research." The Australian @
https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/world/the-times/british-journals-forced-to-retract-fake-chinese-science-papers/news-story/7266f45086a34228fdbc4bdc4f285d86
[Quote: ""Hundreds of fake scientific papers from Chinese
researchers have been published in British journals, prompting
warnings of “industrialised cheating”. The publishing arm of the
Institute of Physics, a society founded in London in 1874, has
been forced to retract nearly 900 papers so far this year. At
least 497 of them were claimed to have been written by Chinese
researchers, on topics ranging from chemical engineering to
artificial intelligence. Others were meant to be from scientists
in India and Iran. In reality, the papers had been churned out
by “paper mills”, shadowy operations that produce falsified
research to order and arrange to have it published in western
journals. To be named as an author of a paper costs from $US500
(about $780) to $US5000, depending on the calibre of the journal
and how prominently your name is to appear, experts say. The
services were being advertised yesterday (Friday) on Facebook.
Springer Nature, a German-British academic publisher, is another
victim. It said it had retracted 749 studies in the past nine
months which it now believed came from paper mills."]
Celina Ribeiro (27 November 2022) "The
push and pull of cheating at university: ‘No one knows what
cheating is any more’". The Guardian @
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/nov/27/the-push-and-pull-of-cheating-at-university-no-one-knows-what-cheating-is-any-more
[Quote: "When a student roams a university campus, they might
see stickers on the back of bathroom stall doors. Pamphlets
dropped at eating areas. Postcards floating around common spaces
and posters wrapped around telegraph poles. All selling what
might look to be homework help or tutoring. They’re on Facebook,
Instagram, in direct messages. If they manage to get your email
address, there’ll be spam there too. Only some of these services
do more than help. They do the work itself. In other words, it’s
contract cheating... “This is a massive industry. It’s a highly
sophisticated industry. It’s a very mature industry. It
functions a lot like big industries,” says Ellis. “What that
should be telling us loud and clear is that it’s servicing a
very, very big market .. for some contract cheating companies,
the revenue from extortion is greater than the revenue from
doing the work. In a survey by Curtin University in 2020, nearly
70% of students so feared being found out by their university
that they said it would be preferable to be blackmailed. ...
there is no university in the world detecting cheating at the
rate surveys suggest is going on, says Ellis. Curtis estimates
95% of cheating students are not caught".]
Wikipedia
(2022) "Autodidacticism". @
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autodidacticism [Quote:
"Autodidacticism (also autodidactism) or self-education (also
self-learning and self-teaching) is education without the
guidance of masters (such as teachers and professors) or
institutions (such as schools). Generally, autodidacts are
individuals who choose the subject they will study, their
studying material, and the studying rhythm and time. Autodidacts
may or may not have formal education, and their study may be
either a complement or an alternative to formal education ...
Secular and modern societies have given foundations for new
systems of education and new kinds of autodidacts. As Internet
access has become more widespread, websites such as YouTube,
Udemy, Udacity and Khan Academy have developed as learning
centers for many people to actively and freely learn together.
Organizations like The Alliance for Self-Directed Education
(ASDE) have been formed to publicize and provide guidance for
self-directed education."].
Ellie Batchiyska (Dec 19,
2018) "Success is for the Self-Taught". Addicted2Success blog @
https://addicted2success.com/success-advice/success-is-for-the-self-taught/
[Quote: "Truman Capote, Jimi Hendrix, Steve Jobs, Nikola Tesla.
Those are four names you never thought you’d see in a sentence
together. As it happens, these four individuals have more in
common than their success, ingenuity, and fame. They were all
autodidacts. In other words, they were self-taught learners. The
talents and innovations that skyrocketed them to fame were the
products of their own teachings. Make no mistake, this doesn’t
mean a formal education is a waste of time. However, it goes to
show that success is crafted solely by commitment and focus.
While college and traineeships can prepare us for the groundwork
of what we pursue, it’s ultimately up to us as individuals to
teach ourselves how to refine our knowledge for success".]
Evelyn Lewin (December 3, 2022) "How embracing a beginner’s
mindset leads to personal growth". The Age @
https://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellness/how-embracing-a-beginner-s-mindset-leads-to-personal-growth-20221130-p5c2g7.html
[Quote: "As adults, it’s easy to stay in our comfort zones, and
trying something new can feel more than a tad challenging. But
there are many benefits to adopting a beginner’s mindset, says
psychologist Lana Hall, author of The Slow Life Project. First,
she says, when we’re about to embark on a new experience, we
tend to shed our usual judgments about ourselves. “We don’t
expect to do well at something when we’re a beginner, so it can
help us feel more of a sense of self-compassion and a sense of
being taken care of; a kindness towards ourselves.”]
Eddie Woo (27 Jun 2015) "Introduction to Calculus (1 of 2:
Seeing the big picture)". Youtube @https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt2DGYOi3hc
[12 minutes][Main site:
http://www.misterwootube.com ]
Wikipedia (2022)
"Learned Helplessness". @
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness
Xinrou Shu (4 December, 2022) "Buying ‘guaranteed
acceptance’ to elite US universities: the risks and rewards for
Chinese students - Chinese students are paying education
‘consultants’ to get them into top US universities by falsifying
grades, academic transcripts and personal statements". South
China Morning Post @
https://www.scmp.com/magazines/post-magazine/long-reads/article/3201835/buying-guaranteed-acceptance-elite-us-universities-risks-and-rewards-chinese-students
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